Re: waterpik ultra i guess you are in the USA

i am in australia so can’t get the ultra pack but doug will get it for me one day.

I started out swishing and using my old waterpic – when I started to see positive results I purchased the recommended waterpic from drugstore.com via ebay. I would say that the ultra waterpic is great – much quieter than my old one and certainly more effective.

thanks plz share

There is no limit as to how often you can apply Periogen per day, however three times sounds like a practical limitation. Depending on how large or tenacious your tartar accumulations, it will all come off in a couple of months with twice-a-day use; but I personally understand your enthusiasm. Use Periogen as often as you please; then as you see results, you may slow down a bit. Once you are “better” you may just use a little Periogen once a day to keep the tartar away and establish a new level of periodontal health.

I do have a question, though. How often is too often when it comes to use? While I plan on using the deep pocket tool that is sold here, and already own a Waterpik, I was hoping that I could fit in a mid-day swishing on top of the twice daily irrigation.

If thrice daily is safe, where exactly is the cutoff point in this regard? Would it be safe to swish for a few hours in a day, or would this cause damage? Of course, I have no plans to swish for such extended periods of time, but to know if there is a point where damage would be done would allow me to push my oral cleansing regimen to the absolute limit. The faster I can achieve results, the better off I will be by far.

Any answer would be greatly appreciated!

The starter kit is nice, the waterpik was cheaper on the site then at walgreens. The periogen is a powder that reminds me of alkaseltzer when u put it in water because it fizzes up. My mouth bleed alot but then again it always does when i brush or eat anything that requires a decent bite. Hopefully ill learn some habits now that i see how much it costs me not to. I also figure the bleeding means i hit the right spot. Stung a bit but again paying my dentist 3 months pay is gonna hurt 10 times worse.

Finally im also a nursing major and recently finished a microbiology course at local Pierce College in woodland hills. While that obviously doesnt make me an expert in the subject, the general idea i have about periogen is its a salt and flouride solution that breaks the bonds in the tarter; much like a laser breaks the bonds of the ink in tattoo removal; your bodys immune responce takes care of the elimination of the leftovers. Not so much an anti anything as simply a bond breaker. In the end its your own resident bacteria and immune response that kill off the bacteria that are at the root of the infections. Bacteria are simply much much harder to kill in a biofilm because of their immense number and the excess material in the way. Yummy ^_^

During Periogen use, gram negative bacteria activity ceases, and this we have known for years. Infections end, pockets heal and close – all indications on strong anti-bacterial qualities – and we ran around thinking and commenting that Periogen “kills germs.”

Well, we got a call from a Temple University researcher in the summer of ’09 who stated that Periogen does not actually kill any bacteria; but instead disrupts their activity by inhibiting quorum-sensing – the ability various bacteria have of communicating and basically knowing what’s going on around them. Without quorum sensing, destructive bacteriological attacks are prevented from occurring.

I suppose that is still anti-microbial and anti-bacterial, but I have tried to clear that claim from all parts of the website until I can figure out how to properly define it.

I haven’t changed any previous Blog postings. I treat these like historical records and somehow modifying them seems deceptive.